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Posted by: Fred Stovel - March 17, 2010 09:59 AM
Commissioner: When I have an extra few bucks and a large debt, I tend to pay off the debt, not add to it. Long-term debt of the City of Portland Unfunded pension and retiree health-care: $2,912,991,344 Long-term bonds and interim financing: $2,898,837,396 Total: $5,811,828,740 Population: 587,406 My share: $9,894.05 As far as bioswales: "Bio-swales, another justification for curb-extensions, are completely unvetted. There's no plan for managing the soil, and flora, in these once they become saturated with pollutants. There's been no exploration of the possibility these could become concentrated with dangerous chemicals. There's been no exploration of what happens to Fido if he eats veggy out of one of these, let alone wild-birds, and other wild animals, like squirrels and even rats. Experts will speak to bio-remediation as if. Fat soluble PBBs, and benzene, are just two very dangerous chems that bio-remediation won't touch, but that these swales will likely capture and store. The experts talk about heavy-metals from automobile brake-pads yet soil, inherently, is almost saturated with heavy-metals and then some." Posted by Vance Longwell On Jack Bogdanski's Blog| March 17, 2010 9:03 AM
Posted by: Michael McGrath - March 17, 2010 07:42 PM
What am I missing? $20,000,000 in costs. 600,000 residents in Portland. $20,000,000 divided by 600,000 = $33 per resident. If we assume 3 residents per household or account, that is $99 per year. That is significantly more than Ms. Fritz' estimate of $.90 to justify her vote.
Posted by: aaron lang - March 18, 2010 12:07 AM
Why would you assume that citizens that objected to this use of funds are "misinformed"? Is it so unbelievable to you that well informed citizens might have a problem with this? It is a slap in the face to say that citizens that opposed this redistribution of funds are just too ignorant to properly form an opinion.
Posted by: Amanda Fritz - March 18, 2010 12:57 PM
Thank you for your comments. * I appreciate your concurrence, Mike. * I believe it is worth borrowing more (or not paying back early) in a recession, Fred, to keep people in jobs. I disagree with the opinion you posted regarding the effectiveness of bioswales. It is true that they must be properly sized and designed to work effectively, which was why I devoted significant time this past week making sure there is agreement between BES and PBOT that the money will be spent on stormwater facilities that work. * Michael, thanks for doing the math. I didn't post the details of how the 7.5 cents was calculated, since the article was already pretty long. We have different rates for residential and industrial users. Its not calculated per capita. The impact of $20 million to rates was calculated for the "average residential customer". In looking back at my post, I realize that phrase was in an earlier draft but somehow dropped out of the posted version. I will correct that mistake. The City has about 150,000 residential accounts and about 12,000 commercial/industrial accounts. The latter will pay more because they generate so much more wastewater, and that is how each bill is calculated. Residential customers will pay the 7.5 cents per months based on typical residential water use calculations during the winter months (we don't charge people sewer charges based on summer water use to account for lawn/garden watering). Of course, from this it is clear that commercial and industrial users's share works out at more than 7.5 cents per month. I still believe the jobs kept/generated are a wise investment. * Aaron, from the questions people have asked me, it is evident many have believed the proposal is to pay for bike paths, road striping, traffic lights, etc. I received, read, and answered over 100 emails on this matter, so I know what Portlanders were saying. Some of them were misinformed. This post aims to give accurate information. Portlanders can then decide, each one, whether you agree with my conclusion, or not, based on the information as I understand it.
Posted by: Amanda Fritz - March 18, 2010 07:16 PM
I mentioned in the original post that one of the options for use of the $20 million was to reduce debt service on the bonds taken out to pay for capital construction projects. I didn't have more information on that until today. I'm posting it as soon as I received it, to add to the ongoing accumulation of facts around this issue. If $20 million were cut from BES's Capital Improvement Projects for the purpose of cutting rates and reducing ongoing debt service, the impact to a typical residential customer would indeed be about 7.5 cents per month, in the first year. The impact in the second year would be greater, up to 15 cents per month, and top out in the third year at 22.5 cents per month. So the annual return to ratepayers would be $0.90 in year one, $1.80 in year two, and $2.70 in years three through twenty-five. Overall, the total amount over 25 years would be about $65. I don't know if having the information about ongoing rate impacts would have changed my vote, if I had received it earlier. Our federal government borrowed billions of dollars last year, and by doing so was able to send money to states to fund projects to provide jobs. This investment in jobs, instead of paying off the debt, can be seen in the same light. On the other hand, our Portland Utility Review Board voluteers are charged with commenting on ongoing rates, and I would have liked their input on a decision that affects ongoing rates in this manner. This has been a challenging week, with the proposed changes to the Independent Police Review process being considered today after only being released for public review on Friday, and with the intense Council debate on the Hurley case in the Fire and Police Disability and Retirement system yesterday. My staff and I work long hours doing our best to find out accurate information, and to make good decisions based upon thoughtful consideration of facts and public input. I am not always successful in these goals. I will continue to base my actions on what I believe is best for the public good in Portland, recognizing that reasonable people can and do disagree on what that means. Sometimes I disagree with myself after further discussion. You're welcome to continue the debate and input here, however I will be unable to check back until Sunday due to a packed work schedule on Friday and family obligations on Saturday.
Posted by: Manuel Veloso - March 18, 2010 11:16 PM
You can always justify using ratepayer money for off-mission projects. Taking your logic to the extreme, why not raise sewer rates by $2 and use that money to fund schools? It's only $2. Why not use that to increase teacher salaries? Fix potholes? Cover the reservoirs? You wanted to be a commissioner and an elected official because you wanted to make things happen. However, there are times where knowing when to say no is more important than any possible public benefit. Grabbing at a loose pile of money and repurposing it is unseemly...especially since the purpose in question is marginal at best.
Posted by: David Sullivan - March 19, 2010 08:45 AM
I hope that you remember that A Sam and Randy scam always stinks. and that I vote.
Posted by: Paul Manson - March 19, 2010 09:34 AM
Its important to remember that while the green street process helps bikes, it is still 100% a benefit for ratepayers. The more stormwater we do not have to convey through pipes to a treatment facility is a huge savings. This will reduce CSO issues, result in better stormwater management in the neighborhoods and then also benefit road users. (Its not just bikes that benefit from slower traffic - its kids and pedestrians too!) This is a perfect example of leveraging one public need and another to get a double benefit. Green streets are a smart long term investment that will save ratepayer dollars for years to come.
Posted by: Zac Christensen - March 19, 2010 03:51 PM
Amanda, While I appreciate your review on what it is at best a debatable issue I still can't figure out why the Portland Utility Review Board wasn't consulted on this decision? It appears that the Council decision came with very limited public involvement and a dismissive attitude towards opponents who we are told are simply misinformed. What we have now is another divisive issue resulting from questionable communication and leadership by the Council. I don't want "slam-dunk" policy from the Council I want inclusive, well thought out policy. At the least I would hope that the Council takes the time to hear comment and seek consul from advisory groups that were established for the sole purpose of involving the community.
Posted by: Ken Hile - March 19, 2010 05:15 PM
This Takes Lots of Stupidity... I am so sick and tired of wanna-be politicians wanting to make their stamp on Portland at everyone's expense. Forget we are not funding our schools properly, forget that we have millions upon million$ in pending lawsuits against an out-of-control police department, we have 12 percent unemployment, a recession, and all you can vision is freakin' bike lanes. We voted against the airport max, but got it anyway. We thought the tram was dumb, and we got it and an addition $40 mil bill out of it. For what? If you ask me, this is the first step in bilking the taxpayers out of paying for the sewer fix underneath Band-Aid Park, oopps, I mean PGE Park, so they can get ready for soccer. Remember the big sewer pipe lying 6 feet under the stadium? Remember how they said they might break it? Hmmmmmm.....we get bike lines now, and soccer repairs later..... Amanda, you should be ashamed of yourself. You and every other worthless bum on the Council. This is completely irresponsible.
Posted by: Larry Emery - March 20, 2010 11:45 AM
I removed my objection once Amanda explained that the Mayor had removed his plan to use $2 million of the $20 million for bike lane improvements and marking costs. My understanding is that such costs will come out of the transportation budget. I would like to see a copy of the final ordinance posted and would also recommend that these projects be audited to ensure that intention on funding sources are met. I generally agree that these opportunistic, out-of-cycle budget deals are high risk. How were the specific project locations selected? Are they the right ones and most cost effective or were they driven by other motives? There is going to be a day of reckoning, if the city continues to champion every feel good initiative without regard to cost and source of funding. For example, the council was quick to pursue the google intitiative, but I did not hear any discussion of the details, is this to be free to the city? Or are there infrastructure costs that must be borne by the City? I would point out that the earlier city wireless initiative failed and the current Clearwire impact on neighborhoods where unsightly transmission towers are needed to complete their commercial network. Thank you Amanda for providing this open forum for us.
Posted by: Jerry Arvin - March 20, 2010 11:12 PM
Hi, Ms. Fritz! You've already been ripped on the math, and a few (a very few) of the other considerations. I've read your comments, your justifications for your support. A noisy few have your ear, it seems. An argument can be constructed for just about anything. Ms. Fritz, with all the justifying that is going on, you do Not want your name to be attached to this. The people of Portland do not want their sewer dollars to go this way. And if the People don't want it, then Sam Adams, the Greens, and 10,000 angels from hell shouldn't impress you. The people of Portland think it stinks, and that should be enough. Thanks for giving us a hearing. Thanks, for your Time. Jerry Arvin
Posted by: Amanda Fritz - March 21, 2010 03:04 PM
Thank you for the further comments. Manuel - Sewer rates may only be used for stormwater and sewer projects and programs, not for education funding or potholes. Water rates will pay for covering the reserviors, IF the Council decides to go that route after a public hearing to consider the issue. Water rates and sewer rates come to you on the same bill, but one source of funding can't be used for the other. The funding in this ordinance is for stormwater facility projects in streets. That is an appropriate use of sewer rates, since surface stormwater facilities have proven to be less expensive and more sustainable than underground pipes, when used in appropriate locations. David - I don't make decisions based on whether people will vote for me again or not. If I did, I might have voted against this proposal in a meaningless grandstanding gesture, since it elicited a storm of spontaneous objections voiced to my office by phone, email, and in person. When I vote against something, it's because I don't believe it is in the long term public good of Portland and Portlanders, rather than to score points with the voters. I voted for this because I believe building more surface stormwater facilities is the right thing to do. I recognize many people disagree. Pat - I agree. Thank you for explaining why some Portlanders support the Council in this matter. Zac - I would have preferred to wait for the Portland Utility Review Board's advice. The one-week delay by requesting removal of the emergency clause was the best I could do to defer the vote. The PURB will give us their advice at the BES Budget hearing discussing next year's rates, which is before the ordinance takes effect since removing the emergency clause also delays implementation by 30 days. Still, I agree with your principle that the PURB should be given time to give the Council advice on significant funding issues. Ken - The projects funded are not connected with and will not pay for sewer repairs under PGE Park. I continue to watch every detail of the soccer issue especially carefully, since I didn't support the conversion or investing in bringing MLS to Portland. In your other comments, you seem unaware that last year Commissioners Fish, Saltzman and I persuaded the entire Council to change the Water Bureau's previous plan to build a filtration plant, if the federal agencies make us treat our Bull Run drinking water for a bug we don't believe it has. After a worksession and public hearing, the Council chose ultraviolet treatment instead, if we're forced to do something. That one vote saved ratepayers $500,000,000 - five hundred million dollars. It decreased the projected rise in this year's Water Bureau rates by over 6%, saving each ratepayer hundreds of dollars. I am not ashamed of this $20 million vote, and I am proud of the $500 million savings vote. I ran for Council to look for savings great and small, and ways to spend tax and rate dollars wisely, in every line item of every proposal. I have done that every day in my first 14 months, and I will continue to do so. With 40% of construction workers unemployed and more than 25% of all Portland workers unemployed or underemployed, I believe it is reasonable, prudent, and wise use of ratepayers' money to invest this $20 million employing local companies to build stormwater facilities. I recognize that you disagree. Larry - Thank you for your support, and for being one of the many citizens who emailed me before the vote helping me sort through the questions and figure out responses. The specific location of projects to be funded are not defined in the ordinance. It says the Directors of Environmental Services (Dean Marriott) and Transportation (Sue Keil) and their staff will meet to figure it out. I met with both Dean and Sue before writing my post. We tried to get more definition of where the projects will be, before the vote, but ultimately decided those choices are better made in an ongoing considered process rather than in a hurry before the vote. I am convinced Dean and Sue are both committed to using rate funds only for stormwater facilities, and finding other ways to fund transportation improvements. They both care about effective stormwater management - Sue used to work in BES. They both care about geographical and socioeconomic equity, so all areas of the city share in the benefits of this project. On Google - yay, that is being led by one of my bureaus, so I don't have to dig to find out the details! The Office of Cable Communication and Franchise Management has done excellent work on this. It is very unfortunate the $20 million vote distracted attention from it on the Council Agenda on Wednesday. If we are successful, Google will build a high-speed (100 times faster) fiber-optic network at no cost to the City. It won't be free for users, but it will be market-priced and likely result in lower prices on existing providers' services. It may be in one area, rather than citywide. The Cable Office staff have done significant work aimed at providing community technology to underserved and disadvantaged areas such as N/NE and Outer SE (including applying for an $8 million federal grant last week), so we were ready to adapt to Google's requirements. Google's high-speed fiber-optic infrastructure would be a huge attraction for businesses seeking the improved services. See my front page for information on the proposal, and how you can help encourage Google to choose us. I'll put the information on my What Happened page after I take it off the front of our site. Jerry - Every citizen in Portland has direct access to me, by email, web site comments, phone, talking to me at one of the hundreds of community events I attend each year, or making an appointment to meet with me. I read and considered input from hundreds of the 582,000 people in Portland on this issue - either for the Bike Plan, or against this funding for stormwater projects. I put my name in the Yes column for the vote on this ordinance because it seemed a good investment to me. Even with the additional information that came in afterwards, and the issue of whether the PURB should be asked for advice on every revision of project choices in BES that happens over the course of implementing the approved budget, I still believe this is an appropriate use of sewer rates to provide jobs constructing stormwater facilities.
Posted by: Amanda Fritz - March 21, 2010 04:12 PM
Clarification: I stated above that my work with Commissioners Fish and Saltzman on choosing ultra-violet rather than filtration, if we are forced to treat Bull Run water, saved "over 6%" on the 2010-11 water rate increase request. It's actually exactly 6%, from 18.9% (projected in the last budget cycle) reduced to 12.9% (requested in the 2010-11 budget). The Office of Management and Finance is recommending additional cuts, bringing the proposed rate request down to 11%. The Council will continue to work to obtain a variance to avoid having to build an ultraviolet facility. That would save approximately $100 million in construction costs, about $200 million including debt service fees.
Posted by: Mark Riskedahl - April 14, 2010 07:10 PM
Impressive example of transparent responsive local governance. Thanks for sharing your thinking on this issue Amanda. I agree that these dollars are well-appropriated for the intended purposes.
Posted by: Desiree Bley - April 15, 2010 09:52 AM
Thanks, great breakdown of a politicized issue. I did not know this site existed, and will use it for information in the future. www.BikePortland.org linked it in the comments section.
Posted by: Amanda Fritz - April 20, 2010 08:44 AM
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Commissioner Fritz,
Your stepwise analysis should be in The Oregonian oped page in that it responds to reasonable questions raised by the editorial board and some letters to the editor.
The Urban Greenspaces Institute has come to the same conclusion through a similar analysis. Our only remaining concern, which was allayed by Mayor Adams at last week's hearing, is the potential for longer term impacts on BES overall budget.
Thank you for your thoughtful analysis of this complex issue.
Mike Houck, Director
Urban Greenspaces Institute